Posted on: November 30, 2009 1:34 pm
Probably the most over played debate of all time, yet people get in near death battles over it. Truth is, they are nearly identical in regards to what you get. Almost frighteningly so. Since 2001 (minus 2008 when Brady was out)
Player Comp Passing Yards % TDs INT Rating
Tom Brady 2562 29,413 63.4 217 92 93.6
Peyton Manning 2752 33,032 66.5 245 106 111.7
So as the nubers go, Peyton gets the nod, minus INTs,
Notable facts, these stats start after Peyton had been at the helm for 3 full seasons, and Brady's first. Obviously there is a maturation process, and is indicated in Brady's later numbers, versus his prios. Second was tha absence of a big game reciever prior to Moss. No offense to Troy Brown and Dion Branch, but they just are not Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison.
On Manning's behalf, he does throw the ball a bit more, and that is reflected in his higher INTs. More attempts will equate to more picks. Also, for a number of years, he had the misfortune in lacking a competative defense. Always a QB's best friend.
Final conclusion, how can one say one or the other? Manning is a more natural in the pocket passer, and Brady is a better over all awareness QB in reards to denenses and shifts. But those tho aspects are impossible to quantify. Fact is, there are some 28 or so teams, that would love a Brady or Manning.
Posted on: January 14, 2009 4:46 pm
It is now old news, but Tony Dungy is leaving the NFL, Probably never to return. At least, not as a coach. He leaves behind an impressive 139 and 69 record (.668%) and that most coveted of prizes, The Vince Lombardi Trophy. But behind the numbers is a myth of Dungy, the great and powerful
We start back in Tampa. Dungy, along with GM Rich McKay put together a solid team, turning the once embarrassing Bucs into formidable foes. But behind the ferocious defense, was a team that seemed unable to get over the hump. The end result was a team with 6 season record of 54 and 42 (.556%). Worse, only one division title, and a dismal 2 and 4 playoff record (.333%). Dungy was subsequently handed his hat and the man who built the team watched the unbelievable. A young coach named Jon Gruden, fresh from his escape from the depths of Oakland, lead his Bucs to a dominate Super Bowl Victory. In his first season, behind an aged and forgotten about QB named Brad Johnson.
Meanwhile Dungy, humble and classy as he always was, quietly packed his bags and headed off to his new job, Head Coach of the up and coming Indianapolis Colts. We all know the story from here. Dungy and Peyton Manning for the better part of a decade go on to dominate the AFC South, along the way becoming the 2006 NFL champions. But again, there is more behind the numbers than first meats the eye. Despite 5 straight AFC South division titles, is a team that struggled to win the big game. While amassing an impressive 85 and 27 regular season record (.759%), the team was barely able to break 500 in the post season, finishing just 7 and 6 (.538%). A huge disparity for a team that dominated it's opponents for 8 regular seasons. 5 times in 8 years the Colts lost their first playoff game, and only once, in 2006 when they won the Super Bowl, did they win more than two.
The final verdict most will come to, much like another departing coaches this year named Shanahan, is that he was a class act, a great coach, and brought his fans the ultimate bragging platform. The title of World Champions. I know I am opening a can of worms with many who see Dungy as a heavenly saint, but I can't help but ask what if? What if Peyton Manning and the Colts had Bill Belichick, or Bill Parcells. How many titles could Indianapolis have amassed if Dungy was not the coach, and someone else was? These are the kinds of questions that cannot be answered, but should be asked. Should Dungy be classified with coaches like Parcells, Bellichick, Cohwer and Shanahan. Or, perhaps, is he just another Marty Schottenheimer who carried the wings of Peyton Manning to a single title.